MECA

Model Engine Collectors Association

Welcome to MECA


EXPOXIII



 

May 2012

Visit the “Events” tab to see the latest info on EXPO XIII, MECA’s September convention. Darrel Peugh will be our feature speaker presenting “Homemade Engines: Classic & Custom, Handsome & Homely” with examples from his extensive collection.

And now the story of a secret project. In November of 1961, the Hustler .10 was introduced in a Model Airplane News ad, Fig 1. The ad had a coupon for a Hustler at “no charge.” The customer had 10 days to decide whether to keep it or send it back; the cost was $4.95 if he kept it. The ad contains an endorsement from George Moir, Nationals Team race champion, builder of the MS Foxes, and consultant to Duke Fox. The supplier was Custom Sales & Service, Fort Smith Arkansas. Fig 2 and 3 show the actual engine. It had a rotating exhaust baffle for the throttle, glow head, front rotary valve induction, and beam mounts; there were no manufacturer or displacement markings. It was only sold in the RC version. Figs 4, 5, and 6 show the box label (shipped 9/29/1961), a note from Custom Sales and Service, and the top of the instructions. Fox users will recognize Custom Sales and Service as the issuer of the yellow guarantee certificate that used to be packed with Fox engines. By now you may suspect Fox was making this engine! Finally in the September 1962 MAN, Fox showed the Hustler as the Fox 10 RC.

The Hustler used the prop hardware and screw in rear cover from the earlier Fox 09 Rocket. I suspect the glow head was from the 09, but with a different contour, and I suspect the cylinder, piston and rod were also 09 parts, but I haven”t torn mine down to confirm this. The NVA was from the Comet Fox .07. So I think with a new crankshaft, made hollow with the front intake port, a new crankcase, and a batch of parts from other engines, Duke had the .10. I should note the .09 had a bore and stroke of .530” x .450” and the Hustler .530” x .460”.

Later Hustlers had a bolt on rear cover, Fig 7. Some early Fox 10s can be found with this rear cover and no markings; Hustlers in Fox boxes. If you find a Fox or Hustler with the first style bolt on cover, you may find the case has internal threads for the old style bolt screw in cover, Fig 9. Fox already had threaded cases. I think he started drilling and tapping the holes for the bolt on rear covers in the threaded cases when he knew he was running low on threaded rear covers.

Fig 10 shows the final case modification, small bosses on top of the rear of the mounting lugs to add some strength and metal where the rear cover mounting holes were drilled and tapped. I guess Duke didn’t learn his lesson on the first Fox Engineering Labs 2 bolt rear cover stunt 35s where he did the same thing!

Fig 8 shows the Fox 10 with the final case; note “Fox 10” on the exhaust shroud. Fig 11 shows the exhaust side of the Fox 10 CL version; same as the RC version, but with no hole drilled and tapped for the exhaust baffle. So that”s the Fox 10 story.



 

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Fig 2

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Fig 3

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Fig 5

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Fig 6

Fig 7
Fig 7

Fig 8
Fig 8

Fig 9
Fig 9

Fig 10
Fig 10

Fig 11
Fig 11



 

If anyone would like to see pictures or info on a particular engine, please write me.

Bill Mohrbacher, MECA President
GWMFOX35@COMCAST.NET

Upcoming MECA Collectos



 

Region 4 Collecto

Region 16 Collecto

Region 3 Collecto

Region 5 Collecto

MECA EXPO XIII



 

EXPO XIII

EXPO XIII

MECA EXPO XII



 

EXPO XII

EXPO XII

EXPO XII

EXPO XII

EXPO XII

EXPO XII

MECA Photos



 

Model Aviation Article

MA His Eng MA His Eng MA His Eng MA His Eng MA His Eng MA His Eng MA His Eng



 



 

Perry Georgia Swap Meet

Fig1
Audrey & Bob Davis

Fig8
Davis' Goodie Table

Fig3
Bob Watts & wife

Fig2
Bob McClelland & Tlush Super Ace

Fig7
McClelland's Goodie Table

Fig4
Charlie Reich & wife

Fig9
PAW .60 & PAW .03

Fig10
PAW Line

Fig5
Dick Ames & Whatzit?

Fig11
Ron Valentine's Desiels

Fig12
More Ron Valentine's Desiels

Fig15
Need Cox Parts? See Art Johnson

Fig6
Kay Yarborough, MECA R7 Dir

Fig13
Steve Clark, MECA R11 Dir

Fig14
Woody Bartelt, Past MECA Pres



 

Cabin Fever Model Engineers Expo

Fig1

Fig3

Fig2

Fig5

Fig6

Fig7

Fig8

Fig9

Fig4

Fig10

Fig11

Fig12

Fig13

Fig14

Fig15



 

Fred Collins

Fred Collins
Fred Collins

AMACharter
AMA Charter

Fox59
Fox .59 "Military"

Steele
Steele .29 or .35

Steele
Steele .29 or .35

Steele
Steele .29 or .35

FredsTanks
Fred's Tanks

Bulldog15
Bulldog 15



 

Fox Engines with Desaxe Cylinders

Desaxe
Tools

Desaxe
Fox 1948, No Offset

Desaxe
Fox 1957 CS Case, .040 Offset

Desaxe
Fox 1956 29R, .090 Offset



 

Akron Radio Control Society Swap Meet

AKRON
Dealing at the MECA Tables

AKRON
Harry Gabler Dealing with Bruce Pike
and Ray Galasco

AKRON
Herb Fletcher (R) Explains why it is
Such a Deal

AKRON
Jack Cylenica (R) Selling Parts

AKRON
John Oliver and Wife

AKRON
John Oliver's Shurikens

AKRON
MECA Tables at Akron

AKRON
Norm Schehl and Darrel Peugh

AKRON
Racing Engines at Akron

AKRON
Ray Galasco (L) and Darrel Peugh



 

International Engines

International Engines

International Engines

International Engines

International Engines

International Engines

International Engines

International Engines

International Engines

International Engines

International Engines

International Engines



 

MECA Tent at AMA’s 75th Anniversary Celebration

Peugh and Baldwin
Darrel Peugh & Fred Baldwin

Darrel Peugh Engines
Darrel Peugh's Engines

Bill Mohrbacher
Bill Mohrbacher at the MECA Tent



 

Snorer Engines

Snorer Piston
SNORER 55 ABC Piston & Sleve

Snorer Cylinder
SNORER 55 Cylinder

Snorer Crankcase
SNORER 55 Crankcase

Snorer UC
SNORER 55 U-Control

Snorer Girls
SNORER Girls

Snorer Cutaway
SNORER 55 Cutaway



 

MECA Tent at Brodak Meet

Mohrbacher Scarinzi
Bill Mohrbacher & Larry Scarinzi

Jack Cylenica
Jack Cylenica and Engines

Doug Dahlke
Doug Dahlke

Bill's Engines
Bill's Engines

Doug's Engines
Doug's Engines

Engines
Engines 1

Engines
Engines 2



 

Cox Designs

Cox Designs
Four Cox Designs

Cox Designs
Four Cox Designs

Cox Glow Heads
Old & New Cox Glow Heads



 

The Fox Project

Brown Jr



 

Join MECA

 

If you are interested in becoming a member of this exciting organization, download a Membership Application by clicking on the form below and saving the PDF version to your computer. Print it, fill it out, and return it with your dues to John Lorenz at the address on the form. You may also use PayPal for this remittance. Use the Back Button on your browser to return to the Home Page after downloading the form.




MECA MEMBERSHIP BENEFITS

 

  1. Post WANT ads, not just For Sale ads

  2. Fifteen (15) day no questions asked return policy on mail deals

  3. Six issues of the Swap Sheet and Bulletin

  4. One free ad per issue

  5. Honest member to member deals guaranteed

  6. Authoritative source of engine history & information

  7. No Ebay and Paypal fees

  8. No government tracking of transactions

  9. Two thirds of our members are not on the web. The access to them is only through MECA membership and they have the Good Stuff!

  10. Assistance to heirs in disposing of MECA members’ collections

  11. Source of missing parts for your engine

  12. Locate repair or restoration services

  13. Full 12 month membership from date of application




MECA Application

MECA Member Services List

 

This is a listing of providers and the services they offer to the membership. I will update this list as new material comes in. Please notify me of any changes, errors, or omissions so that I can keep this list up to date. Send all adds to: Bill Bickel, 3121 W Cavedale Dr. Phoenix, AZ 85083-8637. DO NOT SEND ADS TO ANY OTHER PERSON. DEADLINE is ONE WEEK PRIOR to SWAP SHEET DEADLINE.


 

ANTIQUE REPRODUCTION MODEL AIRPLANE ENGINES: Woody's Model Engines   3706 N. 33rd St.   Galesburg, MI 49053-9715   Tel/FAX: (269) 665-9693   Website: www.woodysengines.com/  Catalog: $15.00 anywhere is USA. Canada and Mexico $16.00 International $22.00.


 

REPRODUCTION ANTIQUE IGNITION MODEL ENGINE PARTS: Aero Electric   3706 N. 33rd St.   Galesburg, MI 49053-9715   Tel/FAX: (269) 665-9693   E-mail: aeroelectric@charter.net  Catalog: $15.00 anywhere is USA. Canada and Mexico $16.00 International $22.00.


 

ENGINE COLLECTOR'S JOURNAL INDEX: Bill Bickel   3121 W. Cavedale Dr.   Phoenix, AZ 85082-8637   Tel: (623) 582-0211   E-mail: wbickel@msn.com


 

HELICOIL REPAIR of STRIPPED SPARK PLUG HOLES (¼-32 only), REPAIR 0F 4-40 & 6-32 HEAD and BACK COVER HOLES, GENERAL MACHINE WORK: C.F. Lee Mfg. Co.   10112 Woodward Ave.   Sunland, CA 91040   Tel: (818) 526-9074


 

DIE-CUT GASKETS for ATWOOD, WASP, & WEN-MAC .049'S $5.00 / set ppd: Bill Schmidt   4647 Krueger   Bel Aire, KS 67220   Tel: (316) 744-0378


 

EXPERT WELDING of ALUMINUM, MAGNESIUM and IRON, CRANKCASES, SPEED PANS, TIMER ARMS, Etc: ALLWELD/Scott Dinger   1367 Patricia Ave.   Simi Valley, CA 93065   Tel: (805) 526-9074   E-mail: hyflo@dslextreme.com


 

ENGINE RESTORATION, REPAIR and CLEANING SERVICES, NICKEL PLATING, TUMBLE POLISHING: Walter Craig   3664 Smoketown Rd.   Glenville, PA 17329   Tel: (717) 229-2840   E-mail: makenewagain@yahoo.com


 

MECOA's Model Engine Enthusiast Resource Site:   Randy Linsalato   P.O. Box 98   Sierra Madre, CA 91025   Tel: (800) 359-6972   Website: www.modelengine.org


 

ANDERSON'S BLUE BOOK: 1500 engine listings 1911-2005 The Collector's Bible with Pricing. Frank Anderson   817 9th Line, Innisfil, Ontario, Canada,   L9S 3Y2   Website: www.andersonbluebook.com   Tel/FAX: (705) 436-1970


 

MODEL ENGINE REFERENCE MATERIAL: American Model Engine Encyclopedia - Engine Collectors' Journal Tim Dannels   P.O. Box 243, Buena Vista, CA   81211   Website: www.modelenginecollecting.com


 

DENNYMITES DRONES & MORE: Info on Sky Charger, Dennymite, Walter Righter, Reginald Denny, Dooling Brothers & much more.   $60.00 + $6.00 P&H. Jim Dunkin   P.O. Box 695,   Grain Valley, MO   64029   E-mail: dunkin@discoverynet.com

Links



Organizations


SAMSociety of Antique Modelers (SAM)

NFFSNational Free Flight Society (NFFS)

AMAAcademy of Model Aeronautics (AMA)

Race Car American Miniature Racing Car Association (AMRCA)



Engine Sales


Woody's Model Engines (Woody Bartelt)

Aero Electric (Woody Bartelt)

Doctor Diesel (Eric Clutton)

MECOA (RJL Engines) (Randy Linsalato)



Interesting Sites


Miniature Engineering Museum

Toute sur le Modelisme - French Controline Club

Moyer Made Chevy V8

MiteCars.com

The Model Museum and Engine Collectors Journal

Model Engine News

Replica Model Engines

Internet Craftsmanship Museum



These links open sites that may be of interest to MECA Members. They cover a wide range of interests and activities.

A Brief History By: Bill Bickel

MECA Historian

 

Bill Bickel, MECA's Historian, has written a fascinating history of the organization. It features a photo of Bruce Underwood, the driving force behind the founding of MECA, and one of early MECA jewelry. It is a good read and give a feel for what things were like in the early days.


MINIATURE ENGINEERING MUSEUM - WHERE ENGINES GATHER

 

Paul and Paula Knapp


The Miniature Engineering Museum is an intriguing display of miniature and model engines of all types. The article has information about current and projected activities. It also contains links to the Museum and to the Internet Craftsmanship Museum.


MECA Constitution & By-laws

 

All transactions occurring between MECA members are controlled by the By-laws of the organization. This ensures that any exchange is controlled and members may trust that the item they are purchasing or trading for is exactly as advertised. Buyers have 15 days in which to inspect their purchase. If not satisfied, the item may be returned for a full refund. If you would like more information on MECA and how it is governed, you may read the Constitution & By-laws in their entirety.

As a convenience, Appendix A of the Constitution & By-laws, covering engine condition classifications, is presented below. The use of these classifications helps to ensures honest exchanges.


APPENDIX A ENGINE CONDITION CLASSIFICATIONS
New In Box (NIB)
Unused and in the original factory carton or box, complete with all accessories.
 
New (N)
Unused and complete with all parts as originally sold by the factory.
Like New (LN)
Run once or twice, slight marks on lugs, otherwise as new.
 
Excellent (EXC)
Run several times, slight marks on mounting lugs, slight discoloration of cylinder head or cylinder due to heat. Very slight scratches on engine. Good compression, light wear on bearing surfaces.
Very Good (VG)
As excellent but used for several hours. Still good compression, slightly enlarged mounting lug holes, one or two deep scratches or moderately discolored spots, small chips out of or slightly bent fins, bearing surfaces discernibly worn.
Good (G)
As very good, but compression and bearing surface wear sufficient to warrant this rating. This code considered the minimum condition of interior necessary for a "use type engine."
Fair (F)
Compression sufficient to run engine, but with reduced power output. Bearing surfaces well worn, one or more missing cylinder or head fins, one or more open mounting lugs, heavy scratches or blemishes on exterior, repaired parts, unacceptable as a display engine, but possible capable of a G or VG rating if overhauled and or new parts added.
Poor (P)
Worn out, poor compression, will not run in present condition. Worn, broken, and/or surfaces badly scarred. Not suitable for use or display as is. May be referred to as a "Parts" engine or "Bones" engine.

Swap Sheet Issue 275



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